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[Doyle]

So shuey... my yuma dropped onto my monti and with just 3sec contact, it stung it badly with an area of dead portion.. Shld i frag the piece to prevent the dead portions from spreading or just leave it? it stopped sliming already.

Need pros advices

[j'field]

Bro Doyle, me too had the same problem as you. My small monti frag that is growing bigger kenna sting by dunno what during my tank shifting and now 90% turn white But still got 10% is okie.

Dunno will it grow over the dead portion or not
(sorry to add to your thread ) Cos think we got abt same Q

[Vanquish]

The safer bet would be to frag it as montis have thin tissues and can be pretty prone necrosis problems... Good luck with it!

[Doyle]

haha think i'll go w boss's advice.. frag it into 2..and see how the affected part go..

[Terryz_]

I think chip away the dead part will do... They will grow back..

[Doyle]

I think chip away the dead part will do... They will grow back..

cant man... its right in the middle..

[Rayman]

I had some problem with mine too, don't know attack by what, so sad it was my favourite

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[Rayman]

Over the weekend i harden my heart and frag it, as algea is growing over the white area... end up it look like a heart shape lol. hopefully it will grow back to a nicer shape

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[iantoh]

Hi there bro dolye,

sorry to hear bout the yuma sting.

i've found that, if the tissue recession isnt a result of an anomaly in water parameters (ie. its because of a one off event like your yuma sting or too direct flow) and the monti was growing well previously, you can try just leaving it alone.

in my experience, the colony can and will grow tissue over the dead areas, because its own dead skeletal area is preferentially a better substrate than other never-colonized-before live rock, etc. and tissue recovery over dead skeletal areas is likely to occur at a far faster rate than normal growth because the coral doesnt need to bind alk, ca, mag, etc, to form new skeleton, it just grows over existing skeleton.

one way to aid this process is to gently scrape away the algae that may grow on the dead areas with a toothbrush once every few days. think of it as cheating, to give the coral an unfair advantage over the algaes, till the recovery is smoothly on the way.

if you havent fragged the piece yet, you can give this leave-it-alone-strategy a try ya. and observe and see how things go? if you can see the tissue areas slowly growing back, then youre safe. the only worry is that the sting event leaves the remaining tissues stressed and exposed to bacterial infections, etc, that may then cause further stn or rtn. but that said, i dont think that's likely if your coral's been doing well thus far, because the process of fragging is in itself a little stressful and will expose tissue to infections in a similar manner, so not much diff, as i think fragging only helps if the bacterial infection or otherwise unknown pathogen has already set in or if we cant tell why the stn has occured.

if your frag doesnt make it, pm me k. got prize. hhahahaha.

anyhows.. i hope that helps!

cheers,
ian

Edited by iantoh, 15 April 2008 - 04:26 PM.

[Rayman]

Hi there bro dolye,

sorry to hear bout the yuma sting.

i've found that, if the tissue recession isnt a result of an anomaly in water parameters (ie. its because of a one off event like your yuma sting or too direct flow) and the monti was growing well previously, you can try just leaving it alone.

in my experience, the colony can and will grow tissue over the dead areas, because its own dead skeletal area is preferentially a better substrate than other never-colonized-before live rock, etc. and tissue recovery over dead skeletal areas is likely to occur at a far faster rate than normal growth because the coral doesnt need to bind alk, ca, mag, etc, to form new skeleton, it just grows over existing skeleton.

one way to aid this process is to gently scrape away the algae that may grow on the dead areas with a toothbrush once every few days. think of it as cheating, to give the coral an unfair advantage over the algaes, till the recovery is smoothly on the way.

if you havent fragged the piece yet, you can give this leave-it-alone-strategy a try ya. and observe and see how things go? if you can see the tissue areas slowly growing back, then youre safe. the only worry is that the sting event leaves the remaining tissues stressed and exposed to bacterial infections, etc, that may then cause further stn or rtn. but that said, i dont think that's likely if your coral's been doing well thus far, because the process of fragging is in itself a little stressful and will expose tissue to infections in a similar manner, so not much diff, as i think fragging only helps if the bacterial infection or otherwise unknown pathogen has already set in or if we cant tell why the stn has occured.

if your frag doesnt make it, pm me k. got prize. hhahahaha.

anyhows.. i hope that helps!

cheers,
ian

Wow thanks for sharing this piece of information

[Doyle]

Thanks bro.. yes the monti healed up itself and sadly i've already broken it up just to make sure.. =(