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Posted 12 August 2007 - 06:59 PM

my cousin is thinking of getting either a froggies or Lionfish to eat up all the damsels in his tank.

problem is, i seriously hv doubts in both of them being able to wean to frozen shrimps once they are done with their role, if they are successful... laugh.gif

that being said, he has anemone and torch, which i read is not suitable for froggies but being in a big tank, should be fine...

prob now.. wat should i get, froggies or lionfish?
is froggies, wat size? i dun wan it to eat the blue tang or purple tang the size of more than 5" leh.. sad.gif
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Posted 12 August 2007 - 07:20 PM

Lionfish would be better in clearing damsel IMO... Frogfish might take a longer time... BTW how big is the tank and the damsel...

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Posted 12 August 2007 - 07:32 PM

Bro kelstorm, frogfish can eat fish up to it own size. shocked.gif
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Posted 12 August 2007 - 07:36 PM

Frogfishes seem to be too slow right? 30.gif 30.gif

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Posted 12 August 2007 - 07:37 PM

QUOTE(j'field @ Aug 12 2007, 07:32 PM) View Post

Bro kelstorm, frogfish can eat fish up to it own size. shocked.gif

get a small froggie lor.. his is a fowlr.. 6ft
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Posted 12 August 2007 - 07:42 PM

Both lion or frog got their pro and cons. laugh.gif Lion faster so can catch damsel faster. But if you wanna catch it more difficult. Frog slower so take ages to catch damsels and damsels are veri fast and smart like my clown.
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Posted 12 August 2007 - 07:45 PM

If your cousin's tank is a FOWLR, he can try to remove the damsels by draining the water in the main tank to a level whereby they can be easily catch while restricting much movement ninja.gif

Froggies seems to be slow in movement but do lionfish spend most of their time near the water surface? huh.gif
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Posted 12 August 2007 - 10:22 PM

QUOTE(izzat @ Aug 12 2007, 07:45 PM) View Post

If your cousin's tank is a FOWLR, he can try to remove the damsels by draining the water in the main tank to a level whereby they can be easily catch while restricting much movement ninja.gif

Froggies seems to be slow in movement but do lionfish spend most of their time near the water surface? huh.gif

bro, u wanna scape for him? hahaha.. i dun even wanna give him that option in case he ask me to help him out...
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Posted 12 August 2007 - 10:23 PM

QUOTE(j'field @ Aug 12 2007, 07:42 PM) View Post

Both lion or frog got their pro and cons. laugh.gif Lion faster so can catch damsel faster. But if you wanna catch it more difficult. Frog slower so take ages to catch damsels and damsels are veri fast and smart like my clown.
But if you wanna catch the frog infuture, no worries man! laugh.gif

i need to factor in the fact that he need to clean the tank.. hving a lionfish inside is kinda scary.. laugh.gif
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Posted 12 August 2007 - 10:49 PM

The lionfish after cleaning all the damsels, will start to eat other fishes. what other fishes is there in the tank. If ur cousin get sting by the lionfish - he will remember for life. Once a guy told me that he was stinged by a lionfish. He felt the sting all the way to the tip of his hair. he said he used hot wax to removed the sting. Just in case, anyone ever need a home quick fix for a lionfish sting. biggrin2.gif

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Posted 13 August 2007 - 12:32 AM

QUOTE(kelstorm @ Aug 12 2007, 10:22 PM) View Post

bro, u wanna scape for him? hahaha.. i dun even wanna give him that option in case he ask me to help him out...


biggrinbounce2.gif My answer will be the same as yours laugh.gif

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Posted 13 August 2007 - 02:27 PM

Like Bro Izzdat suggested, looking at the objective, i think removing part of the tank water is still the fastest and sure way to get rid of the damsels....and most humane way also. Damsels are also lives mah...Thereafter, the damsels can be donated to reefers who appreciate them. biggrin.gif

Rather than bringing in a froggie or lionfish, praying that it catches all the damsels, and later still got to remove the killer again...


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Posted 13 August 2007 - 03:10 PM

QUOTE(Underwater @ Aug 13 2007, 02:27 PM) View Post

Like Bro Izzdat suggested, looking at the objective, i think removing part of the tank water is still the fastest and sure way to get rid of the damsels....and most humane way also. Damsels are also lives mah...Thereafter, the damsels can be donated to reefers who appreciate them. biggrin.gif

Rather than bringing in a froggie or lionfish, praying that it catches all the damsels, and later still got to remove the killer again...

it is a one panel viewing and thus, tons of rocks... even if i lower the water level, they remain hidding in the rocks, no way i can catch them out... i tot of this before.. and the next qn that gonna hit me (knowing my cousin) is, since we removed the water, might as well remove the coral chip sandbed and rocks.. i end up machiem like doing a brand new scaping for him... and not getting paid for it... no tks.. laugh.gif

look at it from another pt, once the "killers" had done wif their jobs, i'll open them up for adoption.. problem solved.. those damsels bite the hands that feed them too.. so, time to meet their maker.. hahaha..
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Posted 13 August 2007 - 05:24 PM

take a tablet of sodium cyanide from Teo eyebrow.gif mixed with water and store inside a syringe. Aim at your targeted fish and use hand to take them out laugh.gif thumbsup2.gif

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Posted 13 August 2007 - 05:29 PM

QUOTE(wonder @ Aug 13 2007, 05:24 PM) View Post

take a tablet of sodium cyanide from Teo eyebrow.gif mixed with water and store inside a syringe. Aim at your targeted fish and use hand to take them out laugh.gif thumbsup2.gif

tat is damned dangerous.. 30.gif
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